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Moonshadow

"Indeed, two millennia of firm Christian witness have cast their hue over the landscape of their world, so that they expect women to be treated as fully equal to men with a rightful honour before God. That was fundamental to Our Lord's mission"

Actually, the first things they're quoted as saying is "is this the Middle Ages?" That's your Christian witness right there.

Because, as today, a few, educated Muslims are ignoring the derogatory characterization of women in their religion, Christians have ignored the complementary role of women in theirs until very recently. The notable exceptions prove the rule.

Moreover, fundamental to our Lord's mission was gaining eternal life for those who believe. (Jn. 3:16) That alone ought to be enough to show equality/complementarism.

Christian

Thanks for this perceptive post.

RAnn

When people complain about the US banishing religion from the public schools, they always think of their own religious beliefs and not about having stuff like this happen in their schools.

Barb Schoeneberger

A very interesting post. I hope we will not have this kind of situation arise in public schools in the USA. I am once again prodded into praying for the conversion of Muslims.

Withouthavingseen

Hear her! Hear her! Beautiful post, beautifully written!

Withouthavingseen

Moonshadow, you wrote,

"Actually, the first things they're quoted as saying is "is this the Middle Ages?" That's your Christian witness right there.

Because, as today, a few, educated Muslims are ignoring the derogatory characterization of women in their religion, Christians have ignored the complementary role of women in theirs until very recently. The notable exceptions prove the rule."

But you are quite mistaken. The role and dignity of women has never been loftier in the whole history of humanity than it was in the middle ages. Research it, rather than just assuming you know it, like "everybody knows." It's part of the Whig interpretation of history that women were battered and beaten in closets back in the "dark ages".

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