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elena maria vidal

I totally agree with Father Angelo. Great explanation! It is a movie I will skip!

Amy

I saw the movie this weekend and I agree with Father. There were good things about the movie, but ultimately it was very watered down and disappointing.

Terentia

The same things bothered me about the presentation of Mary. By the end of the movie, tho, her demeanor and attitude had turned around and seemed somewhat more in line with the traditional view of Mary. Filmakers are obsessed with showing "growth" in their characters. This is why Peter Jackson changed the character of Faramir in Lord of the Rings (according to Jackson). I think, it is also the reason the Magnificat was moved to the end of the movie instead of being included in the depiction of the Visitation. As a Catholic, there were other things I could quibble about but on the whole, it was an attractive movie and I have found that the non-Catholics and non-believers whom I took to see it, also found the movie and as a result, the real story, attractive. And isn't that what we want - to attract others to our Lord and Lady?

leticia

there were other things I could quibble about but on the whole, it was an attractive movie
I agree. I have seen it twice, and agree that this is largely a Protestant version of Mary, not sinless, rather typical until she is touched by grace later in the movie. It seems odd, that this should be true, considering that two of the director's religion advisors were Catholic clergy.
Anyway, it was inspriting, particularly the portrayal (finally) of the manly yet gentle St Joseph, and the exuberant, and motherly St. Elizabeth.I enjoyed the Christmas carols interwoven into the sweeping score, the impressive special effects (Jesus was literally born into the light of the Star of Bethlehem). And, finally, I liked the juxtaposition of the evil Herod the Great, and his son Antipas, and the innocence of Mary and Joseph as a prefigurement of the crucifixion.

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