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Donna Marie Lewis

One thing: what if a woman is undomestic herself ? My own experience of all-female gatherings is that they bored me nearly to tears. (Sometimes I found myself biting my tongue to keep from saying out loud, "Could we please talk about something other than your kids ? " or " I hate to cook, so I'm really not interested in the recipes you've been blathering on about for 10 minutes. " )


That is why "domesticity" is not on the short list of criteria for "authentic femininity." Ideas like that are unfair straightjackets. We operate in the realm of bride and bridegroom, understanding full-well that there are wild differences in the way that men and women are called to embody those truths.

Donna, if I could be so bold, perhaps you could meditate on how you receive the human person (those entrusted to you in various ways) the way you encourage them and foster growth, and how you point to the merciful Father-God with your words and actions. If you do it in jeans, on horseback, while fishing, or under water -- so what? Just so you're a source of life and growth in your sphere of influence, it matters not the style.

(Btw, the women in that circle are supposed to be open to you as a human person as well, and if they are on target, they should sense that your soul needs something else to draw it in. It's a two-way street.)

Margaret Banford

Talking about war, and loving it, my friend is a new member of MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) and he is always talking about how it is unfair that men go to war, that women are voting to make them go to war. This doesn't make sense to me, because men have the right to vote as well, but maybe I'm thinking too literally. Anyway, what if I told him that being a soldier civilizes men? Do you think he would see my point?

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      “People have realized that the complete removal of the feminine element from the Christian message is a shortcoming from an anthropological viewpoint. It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity."
    • Anger and Patrimony (from Donna)
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    • Excellent, Dom! (from Teresa)
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    • Find the logic (from "me")
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      I've been lurking, but this is one that irritates me. Beats the heck out of me what these "barriers" are. I was educated as a chemical engineer, where 1/3 of our class was women. However, in electrical engineering, only 1 or 2 out of 30 were women. Is it possible that women are Just Not Interested in some areas? Nah, it must be The Man keeping us down so we must legislate (and, I agree -- when they say "legistlate", I hear "quota"). And actually, I have a friend that was also a chemical engineer. When she lost her job, she decided not to go back into engineering and started working from home so she could spend more time with her 3 kids. Also, if nothing else, there are all kinds of incentives for women to enter science and engineering -- scholarships not available to men, guaranteed housing on campuses that do not guarantee housing to the general population, etc. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that schools in general are not preparing students for the hard sciences. It is truly a sad state of affairs, the lack of science education these days.

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